General information
- name: BNet
- type: Ladder team game (AT/RT)
- host: Battle.net
- saver: Ghetto_Sidelord
map: Slalom- players: 8
- length: 31:19
- speed: Fast
- version: 1.26 W3XP
- replay type: Public
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Players
Injured_is_Fine (green | 27 APM | 854 actions | 31:19)
4 Death Knight 
2 Death Coil
2 Unholy Aura
4 Dark Ranger 
2 Silence
2 Life Drain» actions
| Assign group hotkey | 21 | |
| Basic commands | 25 | |
| Build / train | 54 | |
| ESC pressed | 1 | |
| Enter build submenu | 15 | |
| Enter hero's abilities submenu | 9 | |
| Remove unit from queue | 1 | |
| Right click | 359 | |
| Select / deselect | 179 | |
| Select group hotkey | 149 | |
| Use ability | 41 |
| Acolyte | 2 | |
| Ghoul | 3 | |
| Necromancer | 8 | |
| Abomination | 12 |
| Unholy Armor | 3 | |
| Unholy Strength | 3 | |
| Necromancer Training | 2 | |
| Skeletal Longevity | 1 | |
| Disease Cloud | 1 | |
| Cannibalize | 1 | |
| Skeletal Mastery | 1 |
| Crypt | 1 | |
| Altar of Darkness | 1 | |
| Ziggurat | 7 | |
| Tomb of Relics | 1 | |
| Graveyard | 1 | |
| Nerubian Tower | 1 | |
| Halls of the Dead | 1 | |
| Black Citadel | 1 | |
| Temple of the Damned | 2 | |
| Slaughterhouse | 1 | |
| Spirit Tower | 2 |
00:22 Altar of Darkness
00:37 Ziggurat
00:59 Tomb of Relics
01:58 Graveyard
02:16 Nerubian Tower
02:41 Halls of the Dead
03:09 Ziggurat
03:25 Ziggurat
04:39 Ziggurat
05:09 Black Citadel
05:13 Temple of the Damned
05:20 Temple of the Damned
05:31 Slaughterhouse
06:07 Spirit Tower
11:10 Ziggurat
11:15 Ziggurat
11:26 Ziggurat
17:36 Spirit Tower
| Rod of Necromancy | 1 |
GoogleMe-13itch (purple | 23 APM | 717 actions | 31:19)
5 Paladin 
3 Divine Shield
2 Holy Light
4 Archmage 
2 Summon Water Elemental
2 Blizzard» actions
| Basic commands | 69 | |
| Build / train | 101 | |
| Enter build submenu | 24 | |
| Enter hero's abilities submenu | 9 | |
| Remove unit from queue | 2 | |
| Right click | 187 | |
| Select / deselect | 255 | |
| Use ability | 70 |
| Peasant | 15 | |
| Footman | 6 | |
| Rifleman | 10 | |
| Siege Engine | 28 | |
| Knight | 23 |
| Long Rifles | 1 | |
| Barrage | 1 | |
| Animal War Training | 1 |
| Farm | 13 | |
| Altar of Kings | 1 | |
| Barracks | 1 | |
| Lumber Mill | 1 | |
| Blacksmith | 1 | |
| Keep | 1 | |
| Town Hall | 3 | |
| Arcane Vault | 1 | |
| Castle | 1 | |
| Workshop | 2 |
00:57 Altar of Kings
01:13 Barracks
01:26 Farm
02:09 Lumber Mill
02:13 Farm
02:22 Blacksmith
02:50 Farm
03:30 Farm
03:54 Keep
04:56 Farm
05:35 Town Hall
05:56 Farm
07:19 Farm
08:18 Arcane Vault
09:02 Castle
10:21 Workshop
14:13 Farm
15:18 Farm
16:12 Farm
19:12 Farm
19:56 Farm
24:08 Town Hall
24:22 Workshop
29:55 Town Hall
| Potion of Lesser Invulnerability | 1 |
skippy0104 (yellow | 45 APM | 1417 actions | 31:19)
5 Dreadlord 
2 Vampiric Aura
3 Sleep
3 Lich 
2 Frost Nova
1 Dark Ritual» actions
| Assign group hotkey | 18 | |
| Build / train | 78 | |
| Enter build submenu | 32 | |
| Enter hero's abilities submenu | 8 | |
| Remove unit from queue | 1 | |
| Right click | 534 | |
| Select / deselect | 228 | |
| Select group hotkey | 480 | |
| Use ability | 37 |
| Acolyte | 8 | |
| Ghoul | 16 | |
| Frost Wyrm | 14 | |
| Crypt Fiend | 3 |
| Creature Attack | 3 | |
| Freezing Breath | 1 | |
| Creature Carapace | 3 | |
| Ghoul Frenzy | 1 | |
| Web | 1 |
| Altar of Darkness | 1 | |
| Crypt | 1 | |
| Ziggurat | 16 | |
| Graveyard | 1 | |
| Spirit Tower | 15 | |
| Halls of the Dead | 1 | |
| Tomb of Relics | 1 | |
| Black Citadel | 1 | |
| Sacrificial Pit | 1 | |
| Boneyard | 2 |
00:17 Crypt
00:27 Ziggurat
01:57 Graveyard
02:49 Ziggurat
02:56 Ziggurat
03:56 Spirit Tower
03:58 Halls of the Dead
04:14 Spirit Tower
05:35 Spirit Tower
05:48 Tomb of Relics
06:26 Black Citadel
08:57 Sacrificial Pit
09:57 Boneyard
10:07 Ziggurat
12:29 Ziggurat
12:59 Ziggurat
13:10 Boneyard
13:42 Ziggurat
14:27 Spirit Tower
14:29 Spirit Tower
15:16 Spirit Tower
16:30 Spirit Tower
18:45 Ziggurat
18:49 Ziggurat
18:53 Ziggurat
18:57 Ziggurat
22:19 Ziggurat
22:22 Ziggurat
22:27 Ziggurat
22:30 Ziggurat
22:58 Spirit Tower
22:59 Spirit Tower
23:01 Spirit Tower
23:03 Spirit Tower
24:42 Spirit Tower
24:44 Spirit Tower
24:45 Spirit Tower
24:46 Spirit Tower
26:44 Ziggurat
» Boweezy614 (teal | 54 APM | 1680 actions | 31:19) 4 Death Knight 1 Death Coil 2 Unholy Aura
1 Death Pact 3 Dark Ranger 
2 Black Arrow 1 Life Drain» actions
| Basic commands | 11 | |
| Build / train | 73 | |
| Enter build submenu | 28 | |
| Enter hero's abilities submenu | 7 | |
| Remove unit from queue | 2 | |
| Right click | 907 | |
| Select / deselect | 605 | |
| Use ability | 45 |
| Acolyte | 6 | |
| Ghoul | 5 | |
| Crypt Fiend | 9 | |
| Obsidian Statue | 11 | |
| Meatwagon | 9 |
| Web | 1 | |
| Creature Attack | 2 | |
| Creature Carapace | 1 | |
| Destroyer Form | 1 | |
| Unholy Strength | 3 |
| Altar of Darkness | 1 | |
| Ziggurat | 9 | |
| Crypt | 3 | |
| Nerubian Tower | 10 | |
| Tomb of Relics | 1 | |
| Halls of the Dead | 1 | |
| Graveyard | 1 | |
| Slaughterhouse | 2 | |
| Black Citadel | 1 |
00:40 Ziggurat
00:49 Ziggurat
01:09 Crypt
01:45 Nerubian Tower
01:45 Nerubian Tower
02:26 Ziggurat
03:02 Tomb of Relics
03:26 Nerubian Tower
04:23 Halls of the Dead
04:28 Ziggurat
04:34 Ziggurat
05:21 Ziggurat
05:34 Graveyard
05:44 Nerubian Tower
05:51 Crypt
05:57 Ziggurat
06:29 Nerubian Tower
06:29 Nerubian Tower
07:05 Slaughterhouse
07:23 Slaughterhouse
09:13 Crypt
12:03 Black Citadel
17:14 Nerubian Tower
18:19 Ziggurat
21:44 Ziggurat
22:40 Nerubian Tower
| Rod of Necromancy | 1 | |
| Scroll of Regeneration | 1 |
» Ghetto_SideIord (red | 49 APM | 1167 actions | 23:49) 4 Archmage 2 Blizzard
2 Brilliance Aura» actions
| Assign group hotkey | 92 | |
| Basic commands | 145 | |
| Build / train | 67 | |
| ESC pressed | 1 | |
| Enter build submenu | 44 | |
| Enter hero's abilities submenu | 4 | |
| Give item / drop item | 5 | |
| Right click | 340 | |
| Select / deselect | 194 | |
| Select group hotkey | 176 | |
| Use ability | 99 |
| Peasant | 17 | |
| Footman | 7 | |
| Nerubian Warrior | 1 | |
| Hippogryph | 2 | |
| Siege Engine | 3 |
| Swords | 1 | |
| Defend | 1 | |
| Lumber Harvesting | 1 | |
| Masonry | 2 | |
| Gunpowder | 1 | |
| Plating | 1 |
| Altar of Kings | 1 | |
| Farm | 7 | |
| Barracks | 1 | |
| Lumber Mill | 2 | |
| Scout Tower | 16 | |
| Arcane Tower | 2 | |
| Guard Tower | 10 | |
| Blacksmith | 1 | |
| Arcane Vault | 3 | |
| Keep | 2 | |
| Town Hall | 2 | |
| Workshop | 6 | |
| Castle | 2 |
00:51 Farm
00:58 Barracks
01:16 Lumber Mill
01:30 Scout Tower
02:08 Arcane Tower
02:13 Farm
02:18 Farm
02:27 Scout Tower
03:07 Guard Tower
03:10 Farm
03:13 Scout Tower
03:21 Blacksmith
03:36 Arcane Vault
03:39 Arcane Vault
03:53 Guard Tower
04:16 Farm
04:20 Farm
04:49 Farm
05:30 Scout Tower
05:31 Scout Tower
05:33 Scout Tower
05:54 Scout Tower
05:56 Scout Tower
05:58 Scout Tower
06:09 Keep
06:18 Scout Tower
06:20 Scout Tower
06:22 Scout Tower
06:24 Guard Tower
06:45 Guard Tower
06:47 Guard Tower
06:51 Scout Tower
06:53 Scout Tower
07:42 Town Hall
07:44 Arcane Vault
08:18 Scout Tower
08:20 Scout Tower
08:41 Guard Tower
08:55 Guard Tower
09:16 Lumber Mill
09:42 Arcane Tower
09:51 Guard Tower
10:06 Workshop
11:05 Keep
11:13 Workshop
12:09 Town Hall
13:22 Workshop
13:26 Workshop
13:29 Workshop
13:37 Guard Tower
14:09 Castle
15:02 Workshop
15:18 Guard Tower
15:45 Castle
| Scroll of Regeneration | 1 | |
| Lesser Clarity Potion | 1 | |
| Potion of Healing | 1 | |
| Ivory Tower | 4 | |
| Staff of Teleportation | 1 | |
| Orb of Fire | 1 |
» 
Ghetto_Sidelord (orange | 60 APM | 1880 actions | 31:19)
8 Tauren Chieftain 
3 Shockwave
3 Endurance Aura
1 Reincarnation
1 War Stomp
7 Shadow Hunter 
3 Hex
3 Healing Wave
1 Big Bad Voodoo» actions
| Assign group hotkey | 37 | |
| Basic commands | 216 | |
| Build / train | 79 | |
| ESC pressed | 5 | |
| Enter build submenu | 27 | |
| Enter hero's abilities submenu | 16 | |
| Give item / drop item | 5 | |
| Right click | 645 | |
| Select / deselect | 284 | |
| Select group hotkey | 468 | |
| Use ability | 98 |
| Peon | 14 | |
| Grunt | 4 | |
| Wind Rider | 17 | |
| Shaman | 10 | |
| Chimaera | 1 |
| Armor | 3 | |
| Ranged Weapons | 4 | |
| Shaman Training | 2 | |
| Envenomed Spears | 1 | |
| Corrosive Breath | 1 |
| Altar of Storms | 1 | |
| Barracks | 1 | |
| Orc Burrow | 11 | |
| War Mill | 1 | |
| Voodoo Lounge | 1 | |
| Stronghold | 1 | |
| Beastiary | 3 | |
| Great Hall | 4 | |
| Spirit Lodge | 1 | |
| Fortress | 1 |
00:38 Barracks
00:41 Orc Burrow
03:22 Orc Burrow
03:27 War Mill
03:52 Orc Burrow
04:45 Voodoo Lounge
05:08 Stronghold
05:12 Orc Burrow
05:49 Orc Burrow
08:08 Beastiary
08:16 Beastiary
08:38 Great Hall
09:33 Beastiary
09:38 Spirit Lodge
10:25 Fortress
18:08 Orc Burrow
20:06 Great Hall
26:25 Great Hall
28:42 Orc Burrow
28:45 Orc Burrow
29:41 Great Hall
30:04 Orc Burrow
30:05 Orc Burrow
30:06 Orc Burrow
| Healing Salve | 1 | |
| Lesser Clarity Potion | 1 |
iMassPeon (pink | 34 APM | 811 actions | 23:35) 1 Archmage 1 Summon Water Elemental» actions
| Assign group hotkey | 10 | |
| Basic commands | 23 | |
| Build / train | 79 | |
| Enter build submenu | 50 | |
| Enter hero's abilities submenu | 1 | |
| Right click | 215 | |
| Select / deselect | 333 | |
| Select group hotkey | 2 | |
| Use ability | 98 |
| Peasant | 23 | |
| Mortar Team | 15 |
| Masonry | 3 | |
| Lumber Harvesting | 2 | |
| Fragmentation Shards | 1 | |
| Flare | 1 | |
| Gunpowder | 3 | |
| Magic Sentry | 1 |
| Farm | 12 | |
| Altar of Kings | 2 | |
| Lumber Mill | 2 | |
| Scout Tower | 25 | |
| Guard Tower | 10 | |
| Arcane Vault | 2 | |
| Keep | 1 | |
| Town Hall | 1 | |
| Blacksmith | 1 | |
| Castle | 1 | |
| Arcane Tower | 6 | |
| Workshop | 3 | |
| Cannon Tower | 7 | |
| Arcane Sanctum | 1 |
00:21 Altar of Kings
00:48 Lumber Mill
01:25 Farm
02:46 Farm
02:58 Scout Tower
03:01 Scout Tower
03:04 Scout Tower
03:25 Farm
03:28 Guard Tower
03:29 Guard Tower
03:32 Guard Tower
03:36 Scout Tower
03:38 Scout Tower
03:41 Scout Tower
04:02 Guard Tower
04:05 Guard Tower
04:09 Guard Tower
04:12 Arcane Vault
04:47 Scout Tower
04:49 Scout Tower
04:51 Scout Tower
04:53 Scout Tower
05:00 Farm
05:01 Keep
05:22 Guard Tower
05:33 Town Hall
05:45 Guard Tower
07:16 Arcane Vault
07:25 Blacksmith
07:29 Castle
07:38 Scout Tower
08:15 Scout Tower
08:16 Arcane Tower
08:21 Scout Tower
08:43 Arcane Tower
08:46 Scout Tower
08:48 Arcane Tower
08:51 Scout Tower
09:03 Workshop
09:22 Arcane Tower
09:24 Arcane Tower
09:28 Scout Tower
09:36 Scout Tower
09:47 Lumber Mill
10:06 Workshop
10:09 Workshop
10:13 Cannon Tower
10:16 Cannon Tower
10:23 Scout Tower
10:53 Arcane Tower
10:57 Arcane Sanctum
11:16 Farm
11:47 Scout Tower
12:17 Farm
12:24 Cannon Tower
12:28 Scout Tower
12:51 Farm
12:56 Farm
13:18 Scout Tower
13:19 Cannon Tower
13:32 Farm
13:41 Farm
13:55 Scout Tower
13:57 Guard Tower
14:44 Scout Tower
14:48 Guard Tower
15:40 Cannon Tower
15:43 Scout Tower
16:51 Scout Tower
16:53 Cannon Tower
17:40 Farm
21:02 Cannon Tower
21:19 Altar of Kings
| Scroll of Town Portal | 3 |
DreamtCannon (blue | 24 APM | 358 actions | 15:09)
3 Demon Hunter 
2 Evasion
1 Immolation» actions
| Build / train | 44 | |
| Enter build submenu | 16 | |
| Enter hero's abilities submenu | 3 | |
| Give item / drop item | 1 | |
| Right click | 175 | |
| Select / deselect | 99 | |
| Use ability | 20 |
| Wisp | 11 | |
| Archer | 7 | |
| Huntress | 3 | |
| Hippogryph | 5 |
| Strength of the Wild | 2 | |
| Reinforced Hides | 2 | |
| Strength of the Moon | 2 | |
| Moon Armor | 2 | |
| Hippogryph Taming | 1 |
| Altar of Elders | 1 | |
| Moon Well | 6 | |
| Ancient of War | 1 | |
| Ancient of Wonders | 1 | |
| Hunter's Hall | 1 | |
| Tree of Ages | 1 | |
| Ancient of Wind | 1 | |
| Tree of Eternity | 1 | |
| Chimaera Roost | 2 |
00:29 Moon Well
00:45 Ancient of War
01:35 Moon Well
01:58 Ancient of Wonders
02:29 Moon Well
04:21 Hunter's Hall
08:38 Moon Well
08:40 Tree of Ages
09:36 Moon Well
11:03 Ancient of Wind
11:21 Tree of Eternity
13:48 Chimaera Roost
13:56 Chimaera Roost
14:40 Moon Well
Chat log
(00:04 / Allies) Ghetto_Sidelord: oh boy
(00:07 / Allies) Ghetto_SideIord: the uprooter
(00:09 / Allies) Ghetto_Sidelord: please tell me you're towering the mid
(00:16 / Allies) iMassPeon: i am
(00:20 / Allies) Ghetto_SideIord: he was the uprooter last game
(00:21 / Allies) DreamtCannon: lol calm down
(00:30 / Allies) Ghetto_Sidelord: was talking to red but i guess you can too sure
(00:44 / Allies) Ghetto_SideIord: oh right
(00:47 / Allies) Ghetto_SideIord: yeah ok ill pull a ghetto
(01:11 / Allies) iMassPeon: mmmhmmm
(01:13 / Allies) iMassPeon: what my aka
(01:27 / Allies) Ghetto_SideIord: speak english
(01:27 / Allies) Ghetto_Sidelord: i remember playing against brucewillisusa on this map
(01:35 / Allies) Ghetto_Sidelord: and he was using the invincible building hack
(01:39 / Allies) Ghetto_SideIord: oh
(01:40 / Allies) Ghetto_Sidelord: and i was using my Karune account
(01:46 / Allies) Ghetto_Sidelord: it was a hilarious game
(01:48 / Allies) Ghetto_SideIord: lol just shut up karune
(01:51 / Allies) DreamtCannon: lol
(01:52 / Allies) Ghetto_Sidelord: i'll have to put up the replay
(02:04 / Allies) Ghetto_Sidelord: if i can still find it
(02:29 / Allies) Ghetto_Sidelord: bit late with my building of this, since i'm eating during this game :P
(02:35 / Allies) Ghetto_Sidelord: please don't banlist me
(02:43 / Allies) Ghetto_SideIord: lol blblblblblbl
(03:06 / Allies) DreamtCannon: im so confused
(03:17 / Allies) Ghetto_SideIord: arent we all?
(03:33 / Allies) DreamtCannon: work faster\
(04:54 / Allies) DreamtCannon: ill get it lol
(06:50 / Allies) Ghetto_Sidelord: smoeone wanna help me grab a mine?
(07:05 / Allies) DreamtCannon: go
(07:44 / Allies) Ghetto_Sidelord: hey blue
(07:50 / Allies) DreamtCannon: :)
(07:52 / Allies) Ghetto_Sidelord: i'll trade you a slippers fro your mantle
(08:12 / Allies) DreamtCannon: k
(09:06 / Allies) Ghetto_Sidelord: hey blue
(09:09 / Allies) Ghetto_Sidelord: can you spare some wood?
(09:10 / Allies) DreamtCannon: yo
(09:24 / Allies) Ghetto_SideIord: I got some "wood" right here
(09:24 / Allies) Ghetto_Sidelord: thanks
(09:28 / Allies) DreamtCannon: np
(09:57 / Allies) Ghetto_SideIord: gonna get tanks
(09:59 / Allies) Ghetto_Sidelord: have they even seen the towers yet?
(10:01 / Allies) Ghetto_Sidelord: i'll get wyvs
(10:08 / Allies) DreamtCannon: i dont think so
(10:15 / Allies) Ghetto_Sidelord: well, this is gonna be fun
(10:17 / Allies) Ghetto_SideIord: dont think theyve done anything yet
(10:42 / Allies) Ghetto_SideIord: YOU SON OF A BITCH
(10:48 / Allies) DreamtCannon: dam red
(11:17 / Allies) DreamtCannon: wood anyone
(11:23 / Allies) Ghetto_SideIord: im short too
(11:31 / Allies) DreamtCannon: its okay
(11:54 / All) Ghetto_Sidelord: LOL
(11:55 / Allies) Ghetto_SideIord: ok now theyve seen them
(12:01 / Allies) DreamtCannon: lol ha wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(12:01 / Allies) Ghetto_Sidelord: yeah
(12:04 / All) Injured_is_Fine: GG
(12:07 / Allies) Ghetto_Sidelord: prup lost his fucking hero to them
(12:10 / Allies) DreamtCannon: not the other side tho
(12:32 / Allies) DreamtCannon: wow purp!
(12:45 / Allies) Ghetto_SideIord: wtf pink
(12:53 / Allies) DreamtCannon: lol hes gone mad
(13:01 / Allies) Ghetto_SideIord: pink just attacked my hero
(13:05 / Allies) DreamtCannon: i kno
(13:08 / Allies) DreamtCannon: i saw
(13:33 / Allies) DreamtCannon: this is easy right now lol
(14:01 / Allies) Ghetto_Sidelord: claws if anyone wants
(14:27 / All) Boweezy614: rofl
(14:41 / All) Ghetto_SideIord: trollface.jpg
(14:58 / Allies) Ghetto_SideIord: come on castle, hurry up!
(15:09 / Allies) Ghetto_SideIord: whose got him?
(15:11 / Allies) Ghetto_Sidelord: eh
(15:17 / Allies) Ghetto_Sidelord: i've got enough to micro already
(15:27 / Allies) Ghetto_SideIord: yeah i cant play ne
(16:38 / Allies) Ghetto_Sidelord: they have things
(17:00 / Allies) Ghetto_SideIord: lol pink just smashed my castle
(17:07 / Allies) Ghetto_Sidelord: with what?
(17:12 / Allies) Ghetto_SideIord: blues chims
(17:14 / Allies) Ghetto_Sidelord: oh
(17:17 / Allies) Ghetto_Sidelord: lol
(18:11 / Allies) Ghetto_Sidelord: oh he killed mine lol
(18:29 / Allies) Ghetto_SideIord: told you i recognised him from last game :P
(18:32 / Allies) Ghetto_Sidelord: yeah
(18:43 / Allies) Ghetto_Sidelord: as much as it pains me to do this pink, you've outlived your usefulness
(19:36 / Allies) iMassPeon: gg guys
(19:39 / All) Ghetto_Sidelord: gg
(19:48 / Allies) Ghetto_SideIord: you realise youre TKing smurf accounts?
(19:52 / Allies) Ghetto_SideIord: and that we really dont care?
(19:58 / Allies) iMassPeon: :)
(20:12 / Allies) Ghetto_SideIord: Ill take that as no you didnt realise
(21:03 / Allies) Ghetto_Sidelord: rebuild your main pleeas :P
(21:08 / Allies) Ghetto_SideIord: cbf
(21:26 / Allies) Ghetto_Sidelord: i think we may end up losing this
(21:33 / Allies) Ghetto_SideIord: I think we lost it a long time ago, lol
(21:37 / Allies) Ghetto_Sidelord: meh
(21:41 / Allies) Ghetto_Sidelord: around the time purp killed himself
(21:45 / Allies) Ghetto_Sidelord: we would have won it
(22:34 / Allies) Ghetto_Sidelord: if we did something other than kill eachother, yeah we would have :P
(22:56 / All) Ghetto_Sidelord: gg
(23:03 / All) Injured_is_Fine: You guys sucked
(23:08 / All) iMassPeon: true
(23:11 / All) Ghetto_Sidelord: pink was killing us the whole game lol
(27:51 / All) Ghetto_Sidelord: but they're basfd
(30:59 / All) Ghetto_Sidelord: alright
(31:00 / All) Ghetto_Sidelord: well
(31:05 / All) Ghetto_Sidelord: if my allies didn't leave with 5000 gold
(31:10 / All) Ghetto_Sidelord: I woulda trashed you noobs :P